Just noticed this posting by Bill Holloway:
Will you work with JSP? They mess up my MVC. I will not work with JSP. We'll put them in an IDE. I don't want them in an IDE. They screw up the MVC. I will not work with JSP. We'll put them down inside some struts. You'll never see them, In the guts. You cannot hide them in the guts! They're in your face when they're in struts! I don't want them on my IDE. They screw up our MVC! I will not work with JSP. We'll put them in some server faces. Many use them, many places. That way the MVC's ok. Will you work with them today? The XML of server faces Bogs down the coders in those places! You cannot hide them in the guts. I will not work with them in struts. Get them off my CRT! They're $@%#*&ing up my MVC! Give me back my Tapestry.